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  • spe00105#148a commented on the post will the phoenix rise from the ashes once more?:

    Mar 04, 2020 PST

    I really hope ashes will rise again cause i love this game so much

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  • the hidden power - episode one - "Thunder Number" 0

    On the 17/02/2020, the website will be/was taken down. Many thanks to brandon miller for hosting it up until now. However, there are a few articles that i believe are worth keeping a hold of, so i will be creating a series of posts that is literally a copy/paste of the original articles. I didn't write any of them, full credit to all those who put in their time and effort into writing these. In addition to that, I have edited it as little as possible, mostly just formatting.

    Christopher Pratt April 28, 2016

    Welcome to the first article in my series – Hidden Power – about Ashes Rise of the Phoenixborn, the brilliant ECG from Plaid Hat Games. If it goes well, maybe it will be a long series. If not, I’m hopeful that along the way we will have had some good discussions, I may have taught you something, you’ve taught me some things with your feedback, and we’ve played some great games.

    These articles presume you know the game, and is geared towards those players that want to start/have begun constructed play. If you aren’t there quite yet, no worries. I will be updating this space with links that have a more introductory bent:

    An Introduction to Ashes

    I know there are more coming, and if you have suggestions, please send them along. As this space fills with foundational information, and you start your trip through the wonderful game that is Ashes, I’m hopeful that the things I write about make more sense to you in the long run.

    Now, without further ado – What the heck is a Thunder Number (TN) and why is it important – First Five and beyond!?

    [[ceremonial]] [[charm]] [[natural]] [[illusion]]

    The Basics

    Thunder Number:
    noun, Ashes vernacular
    The number of dice required to cast all cards in your hand, use all of your ready spells, and use Phoenixborn (PB) abilities – especially important for your First Five (FF).

    Rai Kotaru’s favorite motorcycle:

    origin: Callin Flores from The Main Action podcast.

    This article isn’t about Rai Kotaru. Sorry to those Godzilla lovers. It is, however, particularly concerned with the math of the choices of your FF, and what goes into the deck. The cards you might choose, based on PB, meta, and dice shown, will be in a future installment.

    When someone asks – “hey take a look at my deck?” – almost immediately, my question is: “what are your typical FF?” I say typical, because those choices may change depending, but in general there is a core that players want to adhere to in driving the strategy of their deck.

    (Note: if you are going to post your deck and are looking for serious feedback on it, please let folks know what you think your FF should be. Erik’s Plaid Hat post about his Tulsa winning deck is a perfect example of this. It allows discussion about what should/could/may be better in different match-ups and gives you an idea of the thought process.)

    From the FF information provided, I do some counting. How many dice are required to cast all of these spells, and leverage the PB ability if there is one? Further, how many dice types are required to make all of this happen. For instance, if someone is packing Dread Wraith (requiring [[ceremonial:class]][[ceremonial:class]][[ceremonial:class]]) , and Crimson Bomber ([[ceremonial:class]][[ceremonial:class]]), is playing Noah and wants to Shadow Target ([[ceremonial:class]]), they had better have access to at least six Ceremonial (Ce) dice to be able to do all that they would like to do round 1.

    Rolling with the Thunder – The Good
    Since it did win Tulsa, let’s take a look at what Erik’s deck is packing as a Thunder Number for a “Standard” opening:

    (Note: For this exercise, anytime a Basic dice symbol is used ([[basic]]), it can be of any dice type.)

    - Summon Frostback Bear: [[natural]]to cast, [[natural:class]] [[basic]] to summon the bear. Thunder Number (TN) +3
    - Hammer Knight: [[ceremonial]][[natural:class]][[basic]] to cast. TN +3
    - Crimson Bomber: [[ceremonial:class]][[ceremonial:class]]to cast. TN +2
    - Enchanted Violinist: FREE to cast. TN +0 (Angus note: the deck and article were created pre errata. EV now costs 1 [[basic]])
    - [[Rin’s Fury]]: [[basic]][[basic]][[basic]] to cast. TN -2!

    Frostback Bear, Hammer Knight, Crimson Bomber, and EV all give you a TN of eight, but whoa, look at the effect [[Rin’s Fury]] has on the TN – it actually decreases the value, bringing his total TN to six! That leaves four dice left over to do whatever else he would like, potentially leveraging the power faces of those dice to tremendous effect! That’s maybe four more [[natural]] pings, a [[natural]] resurrection of an ally (with dice to use to cast it), or (far more likely) to [[illusion]] exhaust your dice!

    This is the first clue to begin understand why this deck was so efficient and effective. Not only is the deck putting 10 Attack/11 life on the board (the 11th life is Rin’s Ice Buff), it’s doing it with six dice! Wow.


    Now, imagine your deck has some really great cards. You’ve got a 4[[ceremonial]], 4 [[natural]], 2[[illusion]] dice spread. You are playing Noah.
    In your FF you’ve got:

    - Summon Frostback Bear: [[natural]] to cast, [[natural:class]][[basic]] to summon the bear. TN +3
    - Hammer Knight: [[ceremonial]][[natural:class]][[basic]] to cast. TN +3
    - Enchanted Violinist: FREE to cast. TN +0 (Angus note: the deck and article were created pre errata. EV now costs 1 [[basic]])
    - Steady Gaze: [[illusion:class]][[illusion:class]] to cast. TN +2
    - Blood Chains: [[ceremonial:class]] to cast. TN +1
    - Shadow Target (Noah Redmoon’s PB ability): [[ceremonial:class]]to use. TN +1

    You count the TN and come up with ten, and figure this isn’t a bad strategy. You think “I can shut down a summon they play with Shadow Target, Steady Gaze a unit, Blood Chains using the EV (getting it back later in the game with [[ceremonial]]), play my Bear and Knight and have a dominant board position.” It’s a strong plan, really.

    Until Erik’s deck uses single [[illusion]] and wrecks it all.

    Your Thunder Number at ten leaves you in a precarious situation and particularly vulnerable to [[illusion]] power usage (or Leech Warrior shenanigans). Further, the fact you need three nature dice ([[natural]][[natural:class]] for the bear, and [[natural:class]] for the Hammer Knight) and only have four available, means that if your opponent were to aggressively exhaust your nature dice, you may be left with a Hammer Knight in hand or a Bear unsummoned. That’s a brutal board/tempo hit.

    Your TN for both count AND type need to be able to handle a die or two being exhausted!

    Now, if your opponent isn’t playing [[illusion]] dice, you can relax a little bit, maybe chock your hand full and do, pretty much, everything you wanted. But if you see your opponent has [[illusion]] dice (or think a the Leech Warrior is in play), you need to back up, slow down, and rethink your FF immediately.

    Here, we’ve changed the initial FF due to our opponent presenting [[illusion]] – a single card that suddenly makes all the difference:

    - Summon Frostback Bear: [[natural]] to cast, [[natural:class]][[basic]]to summon - the bear. TN +3
    - Hammer Knight: [[ceremonial]][[natural:class]][[basic]] to cast. TN +3
    - Enchanted Violinist: FREE to cast. TN +0 (Angus note: the deck and article were created pre errata. EV now costs 1 [[basic]])
    - Hidden Power: [[illusion:class]] to cast. TN -1!
    - Blood Chains: [[ceremonial:class]] to cast. TN +1
    Shadow Target (Noah’s PB ability): [[ceremonial:class]] to use. TN +1

    The addition of the Hidden Power allows your first turn to likely be very smooth. Your TN is now seven – leaving you three dice left over to maybe pull your own [[natural]][[ceremonial]][[illusion]] dice usage, or to recover if some of your nature dice were exhausted for you. Once again a dice fixer, a negative TN card, can be quite effective to allowing your deck to shine.

    (Angus note: i removed an image showing a gilder, three eyed owl and butterfly monk)

    Thunderbirds are GO!

    You don’t always need to include cards with a negative Thunder Number (Hidden Power, [[Rin’s Fury]], Expand Energy (though this is really for subsequent rounds)) to play the game effectively.

    Austin Mills’ Brennen deck for Tulsa, in the face of illusion [[illusion]] dice, used ridiculously cheap/efficient units to ensure board presence, and allow him to react/deal with these kinds of challenges. With a 4 [[natural]], 3 [[ceremonial]], 3 [[charm]] dice spread, a typical FF for him might be:

    - Summon Three Eyed Owl: [[charm:class]] to summon. TN +1
    - Summon Gilder: [[charm:class]] to cast. [[natural:class]] to summon. TN +2
    - Summon Butterfly Monk: [[natural]] to summon. TN +1
    - Fire Archer: [[ceremonial:class]] to cast. TN +1
    - Enchanted Violinist: FREE. TN +0 (Angus note: the deck and article were created pre errata. EV now costs 1 [[basic]])
    - Spirit Burn (Brennen Blackclouds PB ability): [[basic]]to use. TN +1

    That’s a stellar TN of six, putting five units on the board for a total of five attack, eight life, doing one damage direct, one unit damage direct, memory drain available, last blessing available, and plenty of Spirit Burn targets. Really, that’s efficiency in a nutshell.

    You know Austin was able to leverage those dice he had leftover to cycle Fire Archers, pump up units, or ping things down. This is key! Those dice need to be doing work for you, or you are missing out on one of the greatest aspects of the game!

    (Update! Note from Austin (via Slack) – if his opponent didn’t have illusion, he would usually swap out the Enchanted Violinist for a Hammer Knight bringing his TN to 9. This he says is “perfectly fine if he’s not losing dice.” He’s 100% correct.)

    Echoes of Thunder

    Now that we have our FF TN set, let’s talk about the round 2 TN and things you need to consider when filling your deck out.

    We are now in round 2. Let’s say we have a Summon Frostback Bear, Summon Dread Wraith, Summon Ice Golem, and a Frost Bite in play (much like Elliot Kramer’s Rin deck here).
    Elliot’s dice spread is a fairly meta-typical 4[[natural]], 4[[ceremonial]], 2[[illusion]].
    To use every ready spell he has in play this round, he needs a total of nine dice. Obviously, he’s probably not summoning a Dread Wraith every round, nor maybe not even a Golem every round. What he drew, current board state, is he first player or not, etc. etc. go into the decisions he has at this time.

    I wanted to point out that the second round has its own, new, Thunder Number: the cost to use all of the ready spells, plus all of the cards in hand is that new number.

    Also note, Elliot’s deck has a pretty heavy nature reliant Spellboard: Bear needs [[natural:class]], Golem needs [[natural:class]][[natural:class]], and an un-focused Frost Bite needs [[natural:class]]. That’s all of the [[natural]] dice available. Sure, he could draw a fixer (Hidden Power or [[Rin’s Fury]]) but woe be unto him if he drew a Summon Frostback Bear, Hammer Knight, and a Molten Gold – darn good cards – without a fixer available. There’s a significant chance at tempo loss.

    The average cost of the cards in Elliot’s deck (using negative numbers for Hidden Power and [[Rin’s Fury]]) is slightly less than 1 (if I did my math right, and that’s unlikely). This means, on average, when he draws up his hand, the TN, presuming he doesn’t want to cast a Dread Wraith, and wants to use Frostbite, is eleven.

    In comparison, Erik’s deck had only a Summon Frostback Bear in his Spellboard, which meant the rest of his deck ran on the eight dice (presumes one Summon Frostback Bear is in play). The average cast for a card for his deck is 1.3 dice, which means he should have that 8 dice to do what he wants (I decided he would get 3×2 cost spells and 2×1 cost spells – or something that smooths dice etc.).

    Austin’s Spellboard took 3 dice to run, Brennen takes another dice, and his average casting cost was 1.5. It’s likely he will be able to run his deck and get the spells off he needs to get off. It’s also likely that with Chant of Protection, he doesn’t need to cast a card in his hand, but use it as a resource, so even if there is a dice tight turn, he might be okay.

    Note that if several fixers are drawn, Elliot’s deck, with the summons he has in play, is ripe to exploit them fully with the ready spells eagerly awaiting the excess dice. It’s likely if Erik were to have drawn a hand that was light on threats, but heavy in dice fixers, he would switch gears and start a heavy dice exhaust strategy ([[illusion]]) to shorten the round, and limit the opponent’s options.

    Expanding Horizons

    Expand Energy is an interesting card that basically plays for “free” round 1, but increases your available dice subsequent rounds, meaning you can support a higher TN. You are basically sacrificing early game tempo for later game efficiency. A really cool Aradel deck run by Grant McKinney from the Vader’s Finest podcast, actually banked on this, and ran Open Memories for a second copy of Expand Energy. He piloted this deck to a top four finish. I was able to see this strategy in effect, as he basically, game after game, filled Aradel’s Battlefield to max because of the significant die disparity he enjoyed. Grant had a fundamental understanding of the awesome resource advantage that comes from tipping the table of available dice in your favor.

    Wrapping it up!

    “Far away, through the gash that led the way into the mountains, he heard the thick mouth of the perpetual thunder.” -Stephen King, The Gunslinger”

    In general, for my FF, I would like my TN to be around seven, and have two more dice of a type than I need to have to get everything cast. The second half of that sentence might not be as clear as I would like, so let me explain. Barring dice fixers, if I count up the number of [[Ceremonial]] dice I must have to cast all of my [[Ceremonial]] dice cards, I would like to run +2 [[Ceremonial]] dice than that number. So, if I have Dread Wraith, Crimson Bomber, and no other Ce type cards, I would want to run at least seven [[Ceremonial]] dice to ensure, for the most part, that I can cast both of those cards. Though, note, if your opponent rolls a lucky [[illusion]] even this could be challenged!

    The Thunder Number – calculated each round – is kind of Ashes’s “mana curve” in a comparison to Magic. You want to be able to use the cards you have in play, cards you draw, your PB ability, and have really efficient turns. Signs you might be off of a properly tuned deck are dice left over after turns that weren’t being utilized efficiently/effectively, or cards left in hand that can’t be cast because of dice type or number.

    There are zero hard and fast rules here. My best advice is to play, play, and then play again. Look for hidden gems in the card pool that may have a very large impact, or cheaper cards that can perform a function you need. This, a tip of the hat to Jarret Berman for running Fade Away in his FF. He realized that he was going to lose the dice war to some opponents, and he used this [[illusion:class]] cost card to remove more expensive threats. People were quite often stunned at the play.

    I hope that this first entry in “Hidden Power” has given you some things to think about the next time you build your deck, sit down from an opponent, evaluate their dice pool, and choose your first five. Remember, if you see [[illusion]] , plan accordingly.

    Please feel free to leave comments, point out something I’ve gotten wrong, or, if I did okay, let me know. If there’s a specific strategy aspect/card/PB you would like to see covered in an edition of Hidden Power, feel free to suggest away.
    Thank you very much for taking the time to read. It is appreciated.

    Best of luck to you.
    -Papa Pratt

    Angus’ note: the following questions and answers are not from the article, but they contain interesting discussions that i believe are also worth including.

    Elliot Kramer says:
    Great write-up!

    Some perspective on my deck and your comments:
    1. I treat Frost Bite as an upgraded dice ability. I don’t intend to use it each round (its not mandatory), and really its use is in later rounds as a way to use excess dice to greater effect ( by either being able to go face, or with multiple FB using Ceremonial [[ceremonial]] dice as nature [[natural]] dice). With this consideration, I treated my FF thunder number as 8 (3 + 3 + 3 -1). It’s a flexibility play, and I don’t personally I costed it at 0 for TN purposes.
    Looking forward to future articles.

    Giovanni Cornara (thesnipertroll) says:

    Definitely expecting a very long series given this excellent first article.
    Since I’m pretty new to the game, I’d like to pose a (maybe stupid) question: how do you factor “cancel” reaction spells like Choke, Ice Trap or Golden Veil into your TN? Do you count their cost for your “effective” TN or do you consider it to be part of the dice you keep in “reserve”?

    To which papa pratt responds:

    Thank you for the kind comment!
    In your FF, I think you have to count all cards as part of your Thunder Number regardless of type. You put those cards in there for a reason, and if you run out of mana, through maybe leveraging dice effects, then those cards cannot perform the function for which you put them in.

    But, being able to roll with the ebb and flow of the game to obtain advantage is the rule of the game – not some arbitrary article written by an old guy (I am nothing if not fallible. :)).

    If you have reaction spells that require a trigger – Golden Veil for instance – and the round plays out that you are confident your opponent isn’t going to play something you can say “No” to, or saying “No” isn’t as important – then feel free to spend the dice allocated to Golden Veil without feeling too terribly bad. If your unit was crucial and was able to withstand a round without you casting the veil, hopefully you are ahead of the curve.

    After that first round, reaction spells are an evaluation on return on investment in pressing action through spending your dice, versus holding those dice waiting on the proper trigger.

    To answer the question directly – “Do I count the cost of reaction spells into my “effective” TN?” Yes. Early in the round. Through the turns, as I suspect I cannot force the trigger, my trigger may not come, is less important than other effects, or my opponent’s dice exhaustion strategy may remove my ability to react in a specific window, I may disregard playing specifically for that trigger, and spend the dice I had allocated in my “effective” TN moving those dice mentally to “reserve.”
    This evaluation holds true for any card you’ve put in your deck after Round 1, by the way. Sometimes, it’s just better for you to not cast something now, discard it for meditation, or hold onto it for subsequent rounds. While I may have alluded to the idea/concept you must. cast. everything. every. round. It’s not what I meant, and not a hard and fast rule.

    I was more identifying rounds where you wished you could have cast some cards, but had the wrong dice and or number of them, and it consistently created rounds with bad tempo.

    Hope this helps and answered your question. Thank you for reaching out. It really is appreciated.

    Lastly, I look forward to more of your work here:

    And, everyone should check that out as well!
    -Papa P.

  • angus#5nar published a deck!

    Mar 03, 2020 PST

    golem rin - tulsa top four deck 2016 - Elliot Kramer deck

    Rin Northfell

  • Cronos Genesis#9i6t commented on the post PHG Reacquired by Original Founder:

    Mar 01, 2020 PST

    I'm extremly surprised by this. But Isaas name on twitter even was AshesIsaac or something along those lines so it obvious that he has some emotional involvement with the game.
    I don't believe they will do Ashes II, but legally he should be able to make a game with almost the same rules that happens to use the same card size and has similar components. You cant really copyright game mechanics, only artwork and to an extent the names of specific objects like the Phoenixborn.

    I would be surprised if not a single 2 Person Duel Card game would be produced as a result of this.

  • Skaak#1st! commented on the post PHG Reacquired by Original Founder:

    Feb 28, 2020 PST

    Well, given that Isaac has left Plaid Hat, and Plaid Hat owns the Ashes IP, I doubt we'll see a direct sequel from him in the near future. He wasn't directly involved with Ashes after about Koji, though, if memory serves, so it's entirely possible that Plaid Hat might want to do a new core set and reboot the game or similar. Or maybe just remix the ruleset into a new IP. Who knows!

  • Kalriva#1sqf commented on the post PHG Reacquired by Original Founder:

    Feb 28, 2020 PST

    I think I remember Isaac talking about wanting to do an ashes sequel, is that something that he'd be alright to do seeing as how ashes is still under PHG? Or is it more likely we'll see more xpacs/a sequel coming from PHG without Isaac's input?

  • Skaak#1st! commented on the post PHG Reacquired by Original Founder:

    Feb 28, 2020 PST

    On the PHG acquisition

    At first blush, it appears that Colby Dauch had to sacrifice every single profitable game and/or game line in order to pry the rights to the Plaid Hat name back from Asmodee. Particularly in the short term, this is probably terrible news for people who love Mice and Mystics and similar games.

    However, this might actually be good news for Ashes players. While I'm doubtful that they'll resurrect Ashes (particularly with Isaac Vega leaving the company), the games that Plaid Hat retains the rights to include, in part:

    • Ashes
    • Crystal Clans
    • Guardians
    • Summoner Wars

    What's notable about these games? All of them are two player tactical card games that underperformed under Asmodee, and were summarily canceled or ceased further development.

    Additionally, Colby is the original developer of Summoner Wars, and he's back at the wheel. Now, it's entirely possible that they still might flounder around trying to figure out what will stick as their niche (as seemed to be the case under Asmodee), but I'm optimistic that they'll give another go at the two player tactical card game niche that Asmodee didn't want to touch thanks to it being the territory of their golden child Fantasy Flight.

    Here's hoping we get a spiritual successor to Ashes, or if we're really lucky more Ashes itself!

    Full list of games and who will own them


    • Aftermath
    • Battlelands
    • Dead of Winter
    • Mice and Mystics
    • Raxxon
    • Stuffed Fables

    Plaid Hat Games

    • Abomination: Heir of Frankenstein
    • Ashes
    • Bioshock Infinite
    • Comanauts
    • Crossfire
    • Crystal Clans
    • City of Remnants
    • Dungeon Run
    • Forgotten Waters
    • Gen7
    • Guardians
    • Neon Gods
    • Quirky Circuits
    • Seafall
    • Specter Ops
    • Starship Samurai
    • Summoner Wars
    • Super Punch Fighter
    • Video Game High School
  • angus#5nar commented on the post PHG Reacquired by Original Founder:

    Feb 28, 2020 PST

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  • the cloudsea siren - how to 0

    On the 17/02/2020, the website will be/was taken down. Many thanks to brandon miller for hosting it up until now. However, there are a few articles that i believe are worth keeping a hold of, so i will be creating a series of posts that is literally a copy/paste of the original articles. I didnt write any of them, full credit to all those who put in their time and effort into writing these. In addition to that, i have edited it as little as possible, mostly just formatting.

    thesnipertroll October 7, 2016

    Hello everyone, and welcome to another instalment of my preconstructed deck reviews, aimed mostly at new players who want to know more about the various cards and strategies in the game. As we already covered five of the six decks that come in the base set, today it’s time to address the final one: Saria Guideman‘s Cloudsea Siren deck.

    With a Battlefield limit of 5 and a Spellboard of 4, Saria falls in the middle of the Phoenixborn cast: nothing noteworthy, neither good nor bad here. Her life value of 20 is slightly above average, and is quite good considering that she’ll probably aim for a long-term strategy. Her special ability, Heart’s Pull makes you draw a card for a Side [[side]] Action and a Charm [[charm:class]] die once per round, granting you a nice card advantage: you’ll be basically be running 6 cards and 9 dice instead of 5 cards and 10 dice per round, if you wish, which means you’ll have slightly more flexibility than your opponents.

    The relatively low cost of many of Saria’s cards (with some of the most expensive allowing you to choose how many die you want to invest when activating them) makes spending a die to get an extra card not much of a burden to your energy reserves. In addition, when drawing with Heart’s Pull you’ll be able to make the opponent discard a card off the top of their draw pile, laying the foundations for a “discard” strategy – further supported by many other cards in this deck, as we’ll see later – and also providing a way for the Enchanted Violinist to trigger her Song of Sorrow.

    The suggested dice pool for this deck is:


    With Illusion [[illusion]] providing dice and board control, and Charm [[charm]] here showing two of its characteristic traits: deck and hand disruption, this deck is unique amongst the six of the core set, as is it goes for a totally different strategy: locking down the board as much as possible and attempting to deplete the opponent’s deck – also commonly known as “milling”. Its goal is to stall the game long enough, removing enemy options and preventing the opponent from attacking, and to get to a point when the opponent starts taking damage from being unable to draw in the Prepare Phase.

    If you manage to get there, the game will be usually over in a few rounds, but you need to exploit every trick in your sleeves in the meantime, because your opponent won’t sit down and stare at you tearing through their deck, and will probably press the attack and attempt to close the game before it’s too late. In this situation, both the Illusion [[illusion]] and Charm [[charm]] dice power come in handy, although for totally different reasons: Illusion [[illusion]] will help you undermine the enemy supply lines, removing any key dice they’ll need to play their most useful cards. The lower the number of dice at their disposal, the shorter their rounds will be, allowing you to get to the late game quicker (yes, I know, more cards sitting unused in their hand means they’ll draw less, but more on that later), and if you take out specific magic symbols, you’ll force the opponent to meditate more, thus advancing your win condition.

    On the other hand, the purpose of the Charm [[charm]] die in this deck is mainly defensive in my opinion, allowing your overall fragile units to survive from round to round, instead of providing extra damage, as you probably won’t be attacking much. That is, of course unless you actively work towards creating avenues for surgical attacks, which is something you definitely can do, but – still in my opinion – requires a bit of build-up; in this situation you can exploit the attack bonus granted by the Charm [[charm]] die to put more pressure to the opponent and make the threat of depleting their deck even more significant.

    Saria’s unique card is Summon Seaside Raven, a Ready Spell with the somewhat hefty activation cost of a Main Action [[main]] and 3 basic [[basic]] dice. Although not requiring specific symbols lessens the impact on your dice pool as you are free to choose whichever combination you need, the amount of dice spent in a single time is somewhat taxing to your reserves, more so if you consider the relative fragility of the Seaside Raven itself. Sure, it possesses the Magic Guard ability that renders immune to all spells controlled by the opponents: it can’t be targeted by spell effects, can’t be hit by effects that affect multiple units without targeting, or spell effects don’t directly target it but affect him somehow (like for example Transfer), nor may Alteration Spells be placed on it by an opponent, but there are still a lot of effects and abilities that can interact with the Raven and render it useless – most of them cheaper than the 3 dice you had to spent to play it in the first place.

    Phoenxborn and Unit abilities that deal damage or exhaust units, like Aradel summergaard‘s Water Blast, the Blue Jaguar‘s Gaze, the Anchornaut‘s Throw or the Fire Archer/Stormwind Sniper Ambush, all are able, if not to remove the Raven from play, at least to weaken it for a Nature [[natural]] Die ping or to render it useless for a round. Its main drawback here being its relatively low Life value of 2, which makes it pretty vulnerable for a 3-dice unit, and most likely requires you to spend more dice in the form of the Charm [[charm]] Power to increase its endurance. Be also aware of Spiked Armor, whose ability is granted to the unit it is attached to, so technically the 2 damage from Spiked Skin originate from the unit and can spell doom for the Raven.

    with an attack of 3 and the ability to hit first due to Battle Advantage, the Seaside Raven is an excellent unit killer, easily making short work of strong brawlers like the Hammer Knight or the Frostback Bear without worrying to trigger their special “on damage” abilities. Its ability to surgically swoop on strong enemy attackers can act as a support for Saria’s discard strategy, allowing you to suffer less damage overall, and to get easier to the late game where all your discard effect convert into damage on the enemy Phoenixborn. On the other hand, if you manage to create gaps in the enemy defenses with the help of Enchanted Violinists, Rose Fire Dancers and Sympathy Pain, you can also plan to use the Raven offensively, maybe packed with some Charm [[charm]] dice for extra damage.

    Weird aspect about this spell: it has a conjuration limit of 2, but no focus ability, so you won’t probably need a third copy in play, unless you plan to reuse it over and over again to replace a lost Raven (but that will cost you 9 total dice, not sure how much it is worth), but still having three copies in the deck could help you to get a second one in place faster if you want, especially given Saria’s incredible card draw potential.

    Ready Spells

    Saria’s three other Ready Spells work in conjunction one another to quicken the grinding of the opponent’s deck.

    Summon Three-Eyed Owl is one of the most annoying spells in the game to play against. At the cost of one charm [[charm:class]] die, its activation is super cheap, and allows you to refill your battlefield turn after turn with minimal effort. The three-eyed Owls themselves are an excellent 1-cost unit, with an attack of 1 and a good life vale of 2, which makes most attempts at destroying them more expensive for your opponent’s reserves than yours. Their utility as cheap chump blockers for enemy attacks is surpassed by far by their special ability, Memory Drain, which, by spending a Main [[main]] Action and exhausting the Owl, forces the opponent to choose and discard a card from their hand. Not only this limits the options at their disposal during the current round, but also indirectly advances your “deck discard” strategy as the opponent will be forced to draw more in the following Prepare Phase, thus emptying their deck faster.

    Having a Three-Eyed Owl down in the first round can hurt the opponent’s First Five strategy a lot, so when play against this deck keep in mind that you would risk not using one of your key cards. In order to prevent this you could either aggressively attempt to destroy the Owl as soon as it comes into play (direct damage is much better than attacking here, as Saria could step in to protect the Owl, potentially triggering a Sympathy Pain in the process) or – if you play Ceremonial [[ceremonial]] – you could include a low attack ally, like the Anchornaut or the Living Doll in your First Five as a sacrificial card for Memory Drain, since you could still recover it with the Ceremonial [[ceremonial]] Power later.

    Abundance is a card with a pretty weird design, compared to most of the other in the game. It costs a Main [[main]] Action and an Illusion [[illusion:class]] die, and then it allows you to spend a Main Action [[main]] to let each player draw up to 2 cards. If a player can’t or doesn’t want to draw, however, that player’s Phoenixborn takes 1 damage for each card that wasn’t drawn (with the option of mitigating the damage your Phoenixborn would take for each focused copy of Abundance). Free card draw is good. Making the opponent draw as well while it is you that spend actions… well… that is less good; so, what’s the point of this card? First of all, Saria has – with the exception of Seaside Ravens – access to relatively cheap cards, plus an incredible resource accelerator like Hidden Power, so drawing more can give you an edge over opponents with higher costs. Moreover, you will be also making the opponent discard with Three-Eyed Owls, thus basically turning all the card draw into milling, and you have access to Illusion [[illusion]] dice, through which, as I already wrote above, you could exhaust any key dice the opponent could need, so they’ll get stuck with a hand of cards they couldn’t use.

    When you reach the late game and your opponent has no cards in their deck anymore, Abundance can deal the killing blow to the enemy Phoenixborn (a double-focused Abundance scores you 6 damage per round, dice-free) and can help you overcome the obstacle posed by opponents who refuse to play cards from their hand so they wouldn’t be forced to draw, or can’t play those cards because you keep exhausting their dice.

    While Abundance and the Three-Eyed Owl work indirectly towards your discard victory condition, the last Ready Spell at Saria’s disposal, Purge is more straightforward. Once in play, by spending a Main Action [[main]] and a Charm [[charm:class]] die, it forces the opponent to discard a card from the top of their draw pile, thus getting your opponent closer to the “point of no return” where they begin to take damage from being unable to draw. Furthermore, if the spell is focused, you have a chance to pay an additional cost of 1 basic [[basic]] die each time you activate its ability, to force a second card to be discarded. With time and dice at your disposal, you will eventually deplete the opponent’s deck for good.
    There are two strategical issues with this card that must be taken into account:

    the first and more obvious one, is that once your opponent’s deck is empty, Purge becomes completely useless, as it won’t further increase your winning chances, so, unless the opponent has ways to get cards back into his or her deck, you’ll find a better use by meditating it away (which will save a card from you deck or hand by the way, reducing the risk of emptying the deck yourselves).

    The second, subtler and most important issue is that while Purge allows you to get to your strategy’s critical point faster, it doesn’t do much along the way. You spend actions and dice to grind through the opponent’s deck, but you don’t affect either player’s current game state: you don’t put units on the board, don’t put pressure on the opponent, nor you control their board or their current options. What this card basically does is converting your spare dice into “future” damage, which may or may not come into effect depending on your overall gameplay, so my suggestion is to avoid investing too much on it, unless you can gain and maintain a solid board control. The best moment to use it, in my opinion, is at the end of the round, especially if your opponent has no more dice to spend and is forced to pass, as you will be able to freely spend up all your unused dice without fearing too much about giving the opponent two turns in a row to do their things.


    Saria has two allies, that help controlling the opponents’ battlefield and prevent enemy unit from becoming too much of a threat.

    The first of Saria’s allies, the Enchanted Violinist, is a really vicious unit. Another 1 attack/2 life unit costing a single basic [[basic]] dice, it is definitely a really cheap blocker and comes with an extremely powerful unit-killing ability. Let’s compare with the Nature [[natural]] Power: side action, spend a Nature [[natural]] Power die to deal 1 damage to a unit. Damage that can be prevented by effects like Protect or Particle Shield, and that can trigger abilities like the Living Doll‘s Pain Link or the Leech Warrior‘s Shadow Drain. The Violinist’s ability, Song of Sorrow, on the other hand, doesn’t cost an action to trigger, it costs a basic [[basic]] die, and it allows you to directly place wound tokens on the targeted unit, thus bypassing all the effects that trigger on damage like those I listed before.

    And the cool part is that the Enchanted Violinist is not exhausted for using it, so you can trigger it multiple times in a round, as long as you have dice available, and are able to trigger it. Right, because the issue here is you need an opponent to discard any number of cards off the top of their deck. No worries: on top of your opponent’s meditation (which you can “facilitate” with an aimed use of your Illusion dice) we also have already seen some tools this deck has to force discard: Saria’s [[Heart’s Pull]] is the most effective, but Purge can work too, if you have dice to spare.

    “Hey” I may hear some of you say “This is not the card that’s in my deck!”. Right, because last July, the Enchanted Violinist received an official errata from the designer itself, as the original version was perceived (deservedly, in my opinion) as too powerful in constructed play, mainly because you could trigger Song of Sorrow “at will” by discarding your own cards thus wreaking havoc among the enemy lines with ease, but also because – costing nothing – you could recover her almost infinitely with Ceremonial [[ceremonial]] dice. Personally, if restricted to preconstructed decks, I don’t mind the original Violinist too much, as it is restrained by the overall mechanics of Saria’s deck, but in constructed play it definitely was a beast, so the change has been for good.

    The other ally, the Rose Fire Dancer is not that much problematic… 3 attack and 1 life for an Illusion [[illusion:class]] and a Basic [[basic]] die is fine, though you need to be extra careful of cheap damaging effects or you are going to waste those two dice with no significant return. The dancer’s Distract ability allows you to spend a side action and exhaust her and another unit, which is quite a good trade for 2 dice, considered that you could play the Rose Fire Dancer and use her ability in the same turn to get temporarily rid of a strong threat like a Hammer Knight or a Frostback Bear. Sure, she will keep a Battlefield slot occupied for a while, but she’s so fragile she probably won’t last long; and if she does survive until the end of the round (remember you have Charm [[charm]] dice if you need), you would have access to a continuous source of exhaustion, or to a deceptively strong attacker.

    Action Spells

    Where Saria’s spellboard works toward achieving the deck discard condition, her action spell provide ways to delay the enemy and get extra power to fuel the deck.
    Hidden Power is one of the most ubiquitous cards in the game, and it’s probably one of the most valid reasons to splash a couple of Illusion [[illusion]] Dice in a deck (in addition to the annoying Illusion [[illusion]] power itself). Does it deserve all its popularity? Let’s see: at the cost of a Main Action [[main]] and an Illusion [[illusion:class]] die, it allows you to get two exhausted dice (one of which can be the one you spent to play this card, as dice spent to pay cost go into their owner’s exhausted pool before the effect is resolved) and move them back to your active pool, giving you a net bonus of +1 die for the round. As in any resource management game, being able to play with 10% more resources than the opponent, even if just temporarily, can be quite helpful.

    Moreover, you can choose the facing of those dice, which will most likely show a Power symbol, providing yet another way to reduce the randomness of the dice roll and allowing you to use the right combination of dice when you need them (you can get a Power dice and spend a side action to use its power in the same turn, which is extremely action efficient). A nasty trick you can pull, for example, is this: you spend an Illusion Power [[illusion]] die to exhaust an opponent’s die. In a following turn, you can spend another Illusion [[illusion:class]] die to play Hidden Power, recovering both dice and immediately use one to exhaust another enemy die, having a third Illusion Power available for a future turn to further undermine your opponent’s energy reserve. Illusion [[illusion]] is really annoying, don’t you think?

    Speaking of annoying things Illusion can do, we have Seal. This action spell is the only card in the game that costs both Illusion [[illusion:class]] and Charm [[charm:class]] so far, and its effect is pretty straightforward: you name a ready spell in play, and each copy of that spell in a target player’s spellboard gets exhausted, being unusable for the round. Similar to Noah Redmoon‘s Shadow Target, this spell is quite annoying in the first round, as it renders one of the opponent’s First Five useless (combine with Three-Eyed Owl for maximum effectiveness, as the opponent will be left with a First Three), but contrary to Noah’s ability, it doesn’t lose its utility through the course of the game, as you will always be able to exhaust multiple spells at once. Furthermore, it indirectly helps your discard strategy, as when your opponents find themselves unable to use what they already put on the board, they’ll most likely play cards from their hand, lest their dice remain unused. Playing cards from the hand means they’ll most likely draw more cards next round, which in turn helps you wear their deck thin.

    Another card with unique design, Strange Copy is really intriguing, but unfortunately depends a lot on what units your opponent plays, and has the inherent drawback almost all Illusion-based units have of being unable to stay in play for long, this time due to its Fleeting ability, which means you need to use it the round you play it, or it will be wasted. So, what does it do? For two Illusion [[illusion:class] Dice (a non-trivial cost, unfortunately) it becomes a temporary ally in your battlefield, with Attack and Life equal to the number of Status Token on it, which in turn, is initially equal to the Attack value of a unit currently in an opponent‘s battlefield.

    So, for example, if you choose a 4-attack Hammer Knight your opponent has in play, the Strange Copy will have 4 Status token on it, and would count as a 4 Attack / 4 Life / 0 Recovery ally. The stronger and more expensive the unit you copied, the more cost-efficient this card becomes.

    Note that the current attack value of the chosen unit is used when determining the number of Status Tokens to place on the Strange Copy, not the value printed on the card, so for example if the opponent has a Blue Jaguar (Attack 2) with a Massive Growth (Attack +4) on it, the Strange Copy would come into play with 6 Status token on it and would be a 6/6 ally. Moreover, once the number of Status tokens is set, any modification in the chosen unit’s Attack won’t modify the number of Status tokens on the Strange Copy. Also remember that, while you can’t place alteration spells on this card, you can place Charm dice on it to get it stronger: a single Charm die will enable it to trade 1-on-1 with any unit that it copied and survive the exchange of blows.

    As a final note, remember that being an Action Spell, and only becoming a unit after entering the Battlefield, Strange Copy does not trigger effects that happen when a unit comes into play, like the Blue Jaguar‘s Gaze

    Reaction Spells

    Saria has a single Reaction Spell, but what a reaction…

    Sympathy Pain is probably one of the most powerful reaction spells in the game, allowing you to deal 3 damage to a target unit or Phoenixborn after your Phoenixborn has received damage, at the cost of 2 Charm [[charm:class]] dice. A 2 dice / 3 damage exchange is definitely good (though a bit magic-intensive as you need two class symbols to trigger it), more so for a direct damage spell, although it comes with a triggering condition that in fact lessens the damage differential you’ll be able to achieve, as you would gain at most a 2-damage advantage over your opponent.

    Nevertheless, its triggering condition is quite easy to achieve, and the game offers various opportunities to trigger it by yourself so that you could minimize its drawbacks, especially in constructed play (taking damage by recovering allies through the Ceremonial power comes into mind as one). In the context of this preconstructed deck, the only way to self-trigger Sympathy Pain is by taking damage with Abundance for choosing not to draw, so it is mainly used as a “punishing” tool against opponents that attack you, both as a way to deal direct damage to their Phoenixborn, or as a unit-removal card, in a way similar to Shadow Counter.

    As always, before we wrap up, let me describe a list of strengths and weakness of this deck


    Lots of tools to limit the opponent’s options: battlefield control, hand discard, and dice exhaustion among them. The opponent will struggle to advance their strategy.

    This deck is very good in long games, where it stalls the opponent and slowly discards cards from their deck until they take damage for not being able to draw.

    Incredible card draw capabilities, combined with relatively cheap costs and dice recursion, that will allow to gain and keep card advantage throughout the game.


    The deck has few ways to attack and/or directly damage the enemy Phoenxiborn, and to be aggressive in general. It must rely on controlling the opponent’s resources and battlefield to be a serious threat.

    The discard strategy takes a while to kick in, forcing you to forfeit immediate rewards and spend dice and actions planning for the future. In the meantime the opponent would have the possibility to apply a lot of pressure to you and unless you delay their game, they’ll probably win before all your efforts come into fruition.

    Even if you manage to delay defeat long enough, you won’t have the resources to stop everything the enemy throws at you. You need to be careful about selecting which key units, cards and dice to control.

    And with that, we have seen all the cards in the Core Set. Thanks for staying with me along the way. Before we begin to take a look at the various expansion decks, I’d like to talk about the first step that needs to be taken when passing from preconstructed to constructed decks: deckbuilding.
    Until then. Thanks for reading!

  • did you consider running this in namine? the problem with using molten gold as a wincon is that the damage output it fairly capped. you've managed to get around that nicely with the burn you've got in there, but encore might be useful as well.

  • Kalriva#1sqf commented on the deck Hammer(head)time:

    Feb 25, 2020 PST

    You're probably right, 4 life just makes for a super juicy blood chains target. Plus ceremonial has some of the best "tool box" cards in the game. But hey what ever works, pretty sure either choice doesn't alter the core identity of the deck.

  • Kalriva#1sqf commented on the deck The Double Sea God:

    Feb 25, 2020 PST

    looks up from pile of janky control/combo decks Don't judge me!!!

  • GoldenPhoenix#10+h published a deck!

    Feb 25, 2020 PST

    Molten Gold, then more molten gold, then, well, you get the idea.

    Brennen Blackcloud

  • doktarr#0a=m commented on the deck Hammer(head)time:

    Feb 25, 2020 PST

    Seeds and CTA and redirect should be enough, I think.

  • bbroughm#44&h commented on the deck The Double Sea God:

    Feb 25, 2020 PST

    Hey Goldenphoenix. Thanks for the comment. I used to have a Jessa deck that made use of cricket in way you describe. Make sure fear is only card in your discard pile then use anchornaut to kill your own cricket, forcing opponent to give you back fear. Two fears in first round is also a lot of fun!! But that only works in first round since later on your discard pile is filled with less attractive targets, and killing your own unit is not always ideal.

  • Skaak#1st! commented on the deck The King of Titans:

    Feb 25, 2020 PST

    You mean Raptor Herder? It's a parallel magic cost, so you can pay either 1 [[natural:class]] or 1 [[sympathy:class]].

  • Arzanthur#5jx3 commented on the deck The King of Titans:

    Feb 25, 2020 PST

    How can I bring Rune Herder into play?
    The preconstructed deck has no Sympathy dice

  • angus#5nar commented on the deck The Double Sea God:

    Feb 25, 2020 PST